Oleoresin Capsicum (OC) training? Any policies?
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kkempf
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You should know that it is not 100% effective on everyone. Be prepared to use other tactics in case it doesn't. Drugs and mental state can cause this non reaction to it. It will close their eyes but may not stop the fight. Hope this helps. Stay safe. |
| If it was not apart of training it does not effect everyone equally, I my self can still react pretty good after being sprayed. If you use the Foam version it can be thrown back at officers. | |
| I myself have been through several trainings in regards to OC spray both alcohol base and water based versions. In terms of what you should know about it before using in the line of duty would be that it doesn't take a great deal to get an inmate to react. I once had to separate two inmates from fighting and because I was so amped up I ended up using the whole can and it took along time for the inmates to recover. But it did work... | |
| Remember that OC won't work on every one. Do know your agencys use of force policy. What you can do in a county jail, you might not be able to do in a state prison. Know your agencys use of force policy! | |
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prisonco
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Be careful if you use a streaming canister. A fresh can has a lot of pressure and can cause damage to the eyes at a distance of less than 5 feet. It is called hydraulic needling effect. It can actually put a hole in the eyeball. The newer versions of OC are called THE PUNCH and FREEZE+P. SABRE RED is very potent stuff too. Freeze+P is a little bit of OC and CS and will create a burning sensation and the sensation of being unable to breath. Any inmate that has built a tolerance to OC will drop with a good dousing of Freeze+P. |
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rolbsned65
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We use Freeze +P OC in most cases, but also we use a Freeze aerosol grenade which will cover a very large enclosed area. As mentioned in the other posts, it is not effective on all offenders. There are also offenders who may have adverse health conditions that may be aggrivated by the use of OC. In the instance of the later two we use a pepper ball launcher which can be used as an intermediate pain compliance weapon as well as an agent dispersal system. The also offer inert rounds for the launchers. The talcum powder round may still have adverse effects on offenders with breathing problems, but they also offer solid nylon ball and water filled versions as well. As far as training is concerned the more often your people train with live agent exposure the less likely they are to panic when using it. Whether or not you are wearing a mask doesn’t matter. In a real world operation you’re going to end up eating some of the gas yourself. If your people are made aware of this and train with live agent the better they will perform under real life incidents. |
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